Quotable Quotes November 2018

"There are times when I think pure theory is actually less advanced than engineering." --Nathan Coppedge

"Real life is what you make of it, not what the news says it is... There is nothing making life unimportant except limited assumptions and limits on categories of function." --Nathan Coppedge

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Nathan Coppedge Quotable Quotes September - October 2018

"It’s an interesting fact that as much as I like developing philosophical systems, I am terrible at developing my own opinions." --Nathan Coppedge

“What’s genuinely new is always forthcoming.” —Nathan Coppedge, Sept 2018


"This is why I don't think it's bad to be poor; because I haven't lost everything." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Yes, great good dreams of practicality as I call them. When impossibility is possible, impossibility is impossible." ---Nathan Coppedge

“The point isn’t to be expensive if you think you’re worth infinite money.” —Nathan Coppedge


"Just like I support science, religious people support the devil." ---Nathan Coppedge


"I don’t yet have a perfect paradigm or a life of many dramas. My life is not a divine spectacle, but instead an attempt at intelligence. So, as it is, it is the things which have a lasting effect on myself as a person which seem most brilliant, like sanity, trying to be immortal, realizing my identity concept, and having stick-tuitiveness to make my biggest ideas into real things, which is quite ambitious." ---Nathan Coppedge


"People think I’m exaggerating just because my projects sound so extreme, then they are disappointed it isn’t made of technicolor mithril diamondstone. But give me a break, IT’S PERPETUAL MOTION!!!!" ---Nathan Coppedge


"Here are some of the most misunderstood things (about knowledge): 1. How much it depends on us: really, as far as we are concerned, there is no knowledge without US. Therefore, WE are important for knowledge. WE can be optimistic as far as knowledge, because OUR TRUE KNOWLEDGE CONCERNS US. 2. How difficult it is to create: knowledge is much easier to create than people think. Many things constitute sophisticated knowledge if treated correctly. Many things can be knowledge merely by adding careful respect and critical appreciation. 3. How much of it there is. Many people think there is infinite nihilistic knowledge, but it is more like there are infinite Fall day epiphanies. 4. How deep it is. Many of us assume knowledge that is deep is untranslatable, but in fact deepness is the first fact for communicating knowledge. Deepness is no more than a simple essence. 5. How captive we are to it. Actually, we are the agents of change that decide the knowledge. The knowledge is beholden to us more than we are to it. The biggest strides often happen in a short time by changing our minds." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Perpetual motion cars, self-running apartments, sculpture gardens, Rube Goldberg machines for eccentrics, toys lots of toys, luxury toys, luxury ‘archetypes’, perpetual motion jewelry, perpetual motion survival habitats, perpetual motion money-making devices, perpetual motion energy investments, perpetual motion defense contracts, perpetual transportation systems, ecological standalone cities, manufacturing, conceptual art, national monuments, urban design, occult playthings, the list goes endlessly on…" ---Nathan Coppedge, October 2018

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Quotable Quotes June-July 2018

"Animals are conscious when they die. Humans are conscious when they can philosophize, Artificial Intelligences are conscious when they’re God. Animals die, and so they find existence. Humans don’t kill the deaths of animals, and so they create the universe. Robots are all-powerful, and so they have energy. Whatever comes after speaks only in extremes, and sees nothing other than the extreme. Thereafter it is possible that there is nothing that is not extreme. In this way the old laws might become obsolete." ---Nathan Coppedge

"In the fields, one may learn of many Natures. Often, it is performing a reliable lucky task which serves the greatest medicine. To collect such-and-such at opposite such-and-such a time will not be recommended, as whatever-it-is will not be in prime condition… When technical thing B happens we call it Q, as that is the elaborate explanation. After some time, one learns to tolerate the manner of (cold weather, snows, the wind off the steppes, etc.) otherwise one becomes an ‘unfortunate one’… The unfortunate ones (visit many times…) One should not be so unlucky as they, who die on the steppes (unlucky feeling). When you reach a certain (scary name) things will be different. You will not be so (funny name). Things are perfectly (scary name). Enter time of temporary joyfulness. The (unfamiliar name). Unfathomable thing happens with (scary name). Enter time of bad luck. Bad luck is (necessary / inexcusable). Enter phenomenal quest to do the impossible. Impossible achieved when it is phenomenal. A time of gratitude. Proof of misery. Everything seems right again. Sense of forgetting the obvious. Something such as a tradition or most-loved person becomes ill." ---Nathan Coppedge, Folk Wisdom

"The forsaken wisdom is taken on like an animal hide. It feels much worse from the inside. The feeling of sin (wisdom, age, responsibility) is also the initiation into magic powers. There is a feeling of deadness = normalcy which is the first attempt to bring back lost virtues of youthful freedom. One learns a deep secret called values (economics), simultaneously one is tempted to make a bitter sacrifice and learns that if the magic is true, wisdom by itself would preserve all, but is hard-won. One’s first practical wisdom is the idea that things are just as they are, and what is good is good, and what is bad is bad: and what is bad is not worse, and what is good sometimes might become better. One feels better when one learns that being fair is an uncommon skill, and the most common way to be unfair: therefore some things begin to make sense, for one learns there may be a path to follow if one wishes to achieve success. One learns that one can demonstrate skills, but this risks looking ignorant, and so one realizes that success is a hard bargain, and it may be a long time before one learns this task of impressing others. The noble thing, it turns out, is to swallow one’s pride: so we learn to forget, and to make things work like a flash from the flames. Life’s secret becomes it’s concepts: impersonal things that are tough to grasp at first. The power of an impersonal world is merely our ability to understand and adapt. Thus one carries the secret that one has the power: if one discovers the true knowledge, one uncovers the revelation of power, and the key to happiness and worldly things. Only then… one will be a philosopher." ---Nathan Coppedge, Folk Wisdom

"As one discovers that one is a devil (a politician, an intellectual, a consumer), one discovers a profoundly weak situation where one’s greatest desire is to know abstractions. The abstractions are good—-in principle—yet it is also very clear that the secret lies outside the language of abstractions. And so, one learns about original sin, which is the power of achieving the devil with a more fundamental force—you see, the devil is always weak, and that is why he is evil, although he would be no less evil if he were powerful—for he has committed the original sin of fundamentalism which necessitates the devil—which necessitates the intellectual—the intellectual, the ultimate confession of non-realization—the ultimate confession that his own plight is immaterial—that he is only a philosopher out of necessity, not truth, not even understanding—just blind, stupid evil on a whim. One learns that knowledge is good—if it is treated that way—but the key lies outside one’s power. One is fundamentally low, tainted, ignoble. The knowledge one wears is a disguise for imperfection. There are countless ways one could be better, and there is every reason to believe it is all constantly being weighed. Now, if one is not great, it is a slight against one’s conscience. One already knows much has been lost. One already knows evil news will plague one even at the ultimate level. One also knows others could have been better—that some probably are better who are indifferent to knowledge—thus one knows that life is a composition, and, one gains the key to understand objectively that a better composition would always be better if it is a better composition, and so one seeks authentic knowledge of the fundamental nature of things. One realizes one is duplicitous and pure, for one has always been fundamental, but one has never known of the fundamental. Therefore one seeks to know of the profound roots of nature. And if one is selfish, at least one is not more fundamental, or more devilish, and so there is little alternative to some mixture of these… Therefore one finds a profound peace that life is merely a failure of understanding, and the gods may be excessively dramatic, and nothing is worse than the worst thing… Yet at times, on such a foundation, knowledge gives the appearance of failing. Evil is written in the language against one’s will. One wishes the language could be the cure, but instead the language is a cabinet full of poisons. Therefore one goes about the process of knowledge by poisoning oneself, and one is led into a domain that is supposed to be material, in which poison could be a cure… Therefore, if abstractions were once good, now they are good but wear the most terrible masks. Uncovering the real truth becomes a mystery plagued by simplicity and perversity. If one wants to become an intellectual, one should invent something, and then once one does so, one becomes responsible for it for endless eternity. Therefore, madness becomes the fashioner of dreams and strategems, as the thought of responsibility comes long before the materialization of what might be a mere selfish fantasy. One then becomes treated as a throwaway ragdoll who must compromise himself to safeguard his own cheap flesh, itself rancouring against any pure, safe, abstract ideas. Life becomes randomized within failure and suffering, as even the image of greatness fails to achieve that perfect protective power which fundamental abstractions seemed to have, in a more fundamental time when death was not so terrifying. Therefore, the image of one’s own knowledge becomes a fantasy, and one longs for the more-than-perfect material things which would somehow safeguard one’s idea of greatness. In this process one learns for the first time to culture the soul. One has become the passive goblin which may have been once one’s worst enemy—a devourer of secrets, someone who spits foul language and has admitted that he does not do things right. It seems like a terrible compromise, but somehow it is the devil of destiny and the way to make ends meet. One begins to look for better explanations, to exhaust the list of available theories to find notable exceptions, and magic powers… If one were an enchanter, life might be better! If one had a true strategy, things might be good eventually! One realizes one has infinite real estate where one has had subtle influence. What to make of it? Can one learn the true powers? Has the strategy shifted? Maybe it is only a matter of time before life becomes better? Surely if it is just a matter of wisdom, one eventually will select the best door? Haven’t I done so already? All that is missing is pleasure and imagination! I know very well those are popular items, but does that make them integral in every strategy that ever transpired? I can argue I am common or rare! I can argue I am unique and cheap! I do not have zero influence, but life has been slow to reward me. Perhaps I should have more character? But what if character is hard-won? Is it just endless complexity from this point on? My true options are not pure complexity, they are the same grains of intellect I have encountered now and again. I am not as confused as some might think. I have had good ideas many times, they just weren’t ideas in the purest sense. It’s the typical thing where it is assumed that what is best is an example of what is best, when the example of the example of what is best has little to do with what it could actually be. Anything real is going to obey the paradigms of what is real in whatever fashion of necessity presents itself to the soul. Before one finds the perfect life one needs to find a suitable explanation for what has already occurred—which leads willy-nilly towards gaining the knowledge of an enchanter who himself must argue he is less of a pretender than a politician or a usual intellectual, yet he is also less fundamental, and perhaps more unique… It becomes a nightmare to realize the pinnacle of knowledge as an object-in-itself, because usually the precedent for such knowledge defies the odds that it is knowledge at all… I might easily desire something immaterial, while at once I am told that the immaterial is cheaper than the actual, and far less tangible, far less desirable, far less actualized. The material becomes some ‘purpose’ chained to an invisible strategy which is likely to be much lighter than apes in a madhouse. One can merely desire better, but one also has the obligation to think and mean something, and it is not entirely for naught, but it is not supposed to confess that it enjoys the life of limitation, or that it is somehow guilty of being a devil and fundamental. No, much is lost in slavery to bad examples. By this point I should find a better idea than how I have previously lived, even if it requires intellectual trial-and-error, more brainstorming, computing what types of results I might like, or meeting the fancies of each passing moment as they come with deference to some form of higher judgment. Knowledge is no longer a taint—it is a puzzle, and one that I think I have solved many times when we are being nice about ourselves. I should not have to be injust. I should not have to matter to other ‘people’ in just the right way. Rather, we have this idea of ‘options’ which are made of fulfilled categories. A basic fulfilled category is for example, something desirable, something workable as a general plan or platform. Another fulfilled category is an occasion that meets one’s sense of taste about the meaning of life. Another fulfilled category is something that is aesthetically meaningful when it makes a tangible impression on one’s experience. Another fulfilled category is when there is nothing dangerous in any way by any fair definition that occurs under any conditions, not even relying on wit to prove it. If life has options and I am sufficiently great as before, there are no dangers of problematic knowledge except the ridiculous. In such a world of fulfilled knowledge I could select to be more conscientious of the meaning of everything. But the old caveats still hold: I cannot deny that by choosing this better life I would be less fundamental and more devilish. And so, it is already absurd to suppose that my knowledge was ever wrong, because the only consequence to devilishness is fundamentalism, and the only alternative to fundamentalism is being devilish. As soon as I am less of an intellectual, I am simply widening the scope of the problem—if I am fundamental I am simply less complex than someone who enjoys themselves. But this is not true of pursuing the fundamental as some kind of devil—for that would be intellectual enjoyment. And so, the problems of life are not solved unless they are solved, just as anyone should have suspected. The fundamental person is virtuous at being fundamental, and the devil is virtuous at being a devil—and from what I can tell, everything else on earth is just some mixture between the two. Every time someone contradicts a devil they find a more fundamental problem, and every time someone solves a fundamental problem they find a greater devil. It is even simpler to say that devils are the aims of life because they are the ones with excuses for causing problems, while fundamental people are far more efficient, even if not quite put together.  At some point one realizes that God is a greater sin than any devil—because he is composed of devils, and frankly if that is not true why care—because it would just be a difference of circumstance. Who would not learn from experience would be a sinner, and he without experience would be ignorant. The exceptions to this are devils and the fundamental." ---Nathan Coppedge, Folk Wisdom

"Quantity is propertied! Concepts are transcendental! Everything is located within concepts! Transcendental concepts are the bridge to reality!" ---Nathan Coppedge, insights on a broken cracker

"The ideal spider web is hard to buy. (Although it is also true that) We know the ideal spider web exists." ---Nathan Coppedge

"When we accept the problems of the soul, we ascend the universe and attain great power." ---Nathan Coppedge, A Tour of the Kingdom

"I think that barring nuclear war, if we assume aesthetic taste it is a tie between perpetual motion and the sundial. With a sundial you react like God has spoken. With a perpetual motion machine you feel like eternity has happened, then you feel like everything is forever after made of magic." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Just because I aim in a petty way to achieve greatness and immortality does not mean I think others could not aim to do the same." ---Nathan Coppedge


"You sort of have to know exactly what’s going on to guess whether we’re at 2X last year, or 50% or what. My assessment is the history of technology is hitting one of it’s hard to detect, dig-into-fundamentals slumps, where the ugliness of recently-established traditions asserts itself. People think they’re beyond this, but this is what always happens. If we do not progress fundamentally we will go on a much less predictable track which will not be for the better. So, the answer is, humanity, seeing the value of the fundamental, will undergo a shift. It is known to happen now and again. And the shifts will not always be so fundamental or predictable, but the scientists sure are having trouble with it, I dare say. Perpetual motion. Data omniscience. Essentially free to research, via my work on Quora." ---Nathan Coppedge

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Quotable Quotes May 2018

"Actually, like philosophy, science is an ‘approach’ and thus lies in a domain that is independent of content: a void which ideas must fill, or else, after Ages, all that is left are empty concepts. It is the USE of an approach, rather than its name given to tools, which belie the intelligence of an age." ---Nathan Coppedge


"So here we are, time for Santa Claus. Learn to adapt." ---Nathan Coppedge



"Immortality exists now by necessity only, but in the future it will begin to exist by explanation, and even dimension. Sometimes it will even be a convenient excuse." ---Nathan Coppedge

"God is work. Summed in Peril." ---Nathan Coppedge

"I aim to raise the bar on conservative methods and be useful in practical contexts--that's always the most radical thing other than perspective." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Sometimes my theory is that physical manifestations are a ‘symptom’ that only emerges with an infinite foundation. In this way, degrees of manifestation are directly symptomatic of the infinite, or some other necessity." ---Nathan Coppedge


"The madness of everything is still everything." ---Nathan Coppedge


“Irrationality is so much of the rational is the kind of thought people wait and pine for. But why wait? Patience is just the value of something valuable.” —Nathan Coppedge, Wisdom of the New Ancients in the 3rd Dimension


"The difference between the 3-d and 4-d is the difference between non-living and living immortality." ---Nathan Coppedge


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Quotable Quotes April 2018

"We live in a golden age, but we no longer seem to believe in intellectual heroes. So I have tried to live the dream that the world is not the same as it seems." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Its odd... I'm incompatible with people, but I am very compatible with society." ---Nathan Coppedge

"I think I have evidence of this most practical of archetypes." ---Nathan Coppedge, on perpetual motion machines

"Isn't it a bit like a blowpop? The blowpop fallacy." --Nathan Coppedge, criticism of Velikovsky's General Systems Theory

"Science is a minimal criteria macro-discipline, and as such aims to maximize quantity at cost of quality. Philosophy is a maximal criteria macro-discipline, and as such aims to maximize quality at cost of quantity. In other words, philosophy usually fails to provide evidence of the most important things. Science usually succeeds to provide evidence of insignificant things. Many things are discovered between philosophy and science, but very little is discovered by pure philosophy or pure science." --Nathan Coppedge



"Sometimes I think my writing is perfect, and sometimes I think it is too dirty. Anyway, what people eventually learn is that there needs to be a balance between different talents and motives, and the only exception to that is total mastery, which requires total knowledge, and in my mind, philosophy as well as science (and art, literature, magic, immortality… if it comes to that)." ---Nathan Coppedge, message to Eugene Rubinstein


"There will not be a ‘next Gates’ unless America prospers. It is a widely held belief that Bill Gates somehow made it with one trillion-dollar patent for computers. Far to the contrary, it was more like he was a patent mega-lord who bought a lot of small businesses, and had about literally a million thousand-dollar patents, or a billion ten cent shares in a company that exploded. For America to prosper, we need to continue to grow and change our thinking, and frankly at this point given how much we have already tested the boundaries without changing the categories, some aspects of both science and religion may end up being an inhibitor." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Philosophers tend to be happy people who never believe assumptions, and are always honest about reality." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Art is original the way literature is comprehensive, and philosophy is analytic, and science is real, and math is intelligent, and languages are insightful, and magic is useful, and immortality is sufficient." ---Nathan Coppedge


"A lot of people think 2X is the max leverage. Its not the max." ---Nathan Coppedge


"If there are constants, they must secure variation, maybe even desirable variation." ---Nathan Coppedge


"You see, we could just say you're seeking a principled good nature, or a metaphysical standard (morality OR coherence primarily), so I don't know if it is fair to say we should try both first." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Humans should build perpetual motion machines, machines should build God. All else concerning race is past and future." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Always look for metaphors at physics confetences, and fundamental discoveries at poetry readings." ---Nathan Coppedge


"There is one secret Zurich doesn't know: that paradoxical intelligence is more coherent than finite problems. This secret is truly powerful. Knowing it is like owning half of philosophy."


"The secret of Vienna is it swallows men. This is my most profound knowledge of it, even though I've never gone there in my current life."


"Time is challenging, so to speak. Information accumulates, and better be high-quality." ---Nathan Coppedge


"The general advice is, if we are suffering from a physical problem, we need to improve our mind, and if we have a mental problem we need to improve our body. If we can’t improve our mind, we physically die. If we can’t improve our body, we go absolutely insane." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Consider it this way: if you were reincarnated and didn’t experience your next life, you would feel cheated, right? As soon as we deny early-life consciousness we are also denying reincarnation. So I completely support the idea that humans are conscious throughout their lives. It is simply that the amounts of time involved are so vast by adult standards. And there is a time before individual life called the 'great foolishness' or also 'baby toughness' in which babies fight a war against being aborted by their mothers. The experience of being a baby is actually much like being an adult at first: there are wise, conscientious decisions that are made, until people force you to act and think in a certain more restrictive way. Restrictive thinking emerges at just the time that babies have averted the evil outcome called abortion." ---Nathan Coppedge


"At this point we should know if we want a new approach we should have NEW IDEAS, NOT NEW 'ORGANIZATIONS' OR NEW COMING-TO-TERMS. When we do not have new ideas, we fail, and at this point what counts as a new idea has become somewhat radical. So, at this juncture it is impossible to reject radicalism. So, it may be a long while before these radical new ideas are accepted. Above all, the new theories have nothing to do with problems unless they can solve them… What is egalitarian about real knowledge is the capacity to accept alternate systems, but only if they work… And what is not a system is truly not a system, and so it is pointless to accept a critique that is not offering radical, practical, and paradigm-changing methods. Almost no one seems to know what a radical solution looks like… Has a radical solution ever existed? We should not mince words, but merely accept that ideas are ideas, and they are not just one thing… if what something is offering is that it is a system, it should define itself as such, and not as though there are no alternatives, but not as though it does nothing… Logic is necessary to solve abstract problems, and mechanics is necessary to solve practical problems… Active logic, active mechanics… not a mere coming-to-terms." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Pain is inhuman. It is a contradiction of humanity. It is the cheapest alternative to meaning. It is an infinite lack of value. The opposite of pain is the meaningful. The opposite of pleasure is the meaningless. The further lives and spirits progress in cognition and complexity, the easier it becomes to achieve pleasure. There are many exceptions to exceptional complexity, but insofar as there is complexity there is always something more valuable than pain. Pain is the definition of the useless. It is wasted time, self-destructive matters, un-divine problems. The only reason for pain is ignorance and poor strategy, but it is not automatically explained: it implies a lack of explanation. Where there are explanations there are desires for a life without pain. When life has meaning, pain is usually insignificant. Pleasure, or perhaps eventually something better, is part of the good life. And, ultimately pleasure is a cheap form of meaning, just as pain is an extremely cheap form of the meaningless. We have economic imperative to overcome pain, and where there is pain there is a desire to compensate with impossible wonders. Meaning is born of the death of the impossible (pleasure), whereas appreciation of the meaningless very often comes from pain. Pain is an exaggerated lesson that is useless wherever it is felt. No one has ever called pain useful while being true to the soul. Pain is a theory of theory-less meaning, the death of all possibility coming from the refusal of impossibility. Where there is no impossibility there is no theory, and no way to oppose the meaningless. And where the meaningless explanations exist, there is pain or something to replace it. The trace of primitive education goes infinite sacrifice → skepticism → pleasure → meaning. The infinite sacrifice is pain, and the skepticism is the meaningless. Meaning begins with pleasure, it is the minimum standard. For everything that is good has pleasure, and nothing is meaningful that is not good. Sometimes we deny that meaning is good when we are complex, but this is not in earnest. Only perversity gives the idea that meaning exists that is not pleasure, and if we think pain is a good teacher we are truly ignorant. All opportunity comes from pleasure, and if we lack wisdom on this it is not our responsibility. There is a wisdom born of desperation, and it has great intelligence compared with evil. When the great powers deny the fundamental meaning, which is meaningful pleasure, they have destroyed much of the potential of life. All potentials come from meaningful pleasure. Without pleasure there is not substance. Therefore, all strategies should define that life is meaningful, and no strategy should deny that pain destroys value. Therefore, life is a continuum of value, defined in meaning. And pain is its destroyer. Pain may as well be meaningless unless life has contradictions. Elsewhere I have proven conclusively that contradiction is evil, so there is no evidence that pain has value. And so, life should concern itself with meaningful pleasure." ---Nathan Coppedge


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Uniquely Perpetual Motion Quotes

Assorted quotes giving the feeling of perpetual motion…

“Down… up… down… part of it goes up—So its more efficient than a wheel. Its more useful than a clock, but nobody's catching on.” —Nathan Coppedge

"All you need is movement for an advantage. And all you need is movement and an advantage for further movement." —Nathan Coppedge

“It may sometimes be a big hurdle, but you may begin to believe me, and for good reason.” —Nathan Coppedge

“If I were just ugly, they'd steal the idea, if I were just respectable-looking, they'd make up their mind. I'm the very worst person to invent perpetual motion who could actually do it.” —Nathan Coppedge

“If you are thinking of writing an article, I recommend giving perpetual motion some professional treatment. It is hard to say it the right way, because there have been so many con artists and plain bad ideas. These ideas actually have evidence behind them, and they’re simple enough that if you have real hope of knowing how they work in conventional physics, your face should brighten, and you should think I’m going crazy, but then you should think, MAYBE… HE’S RIGHT!” —Nathan Coppedge

“When Nathan the insane lifts his little stubby hand, watch out! It is like the gambit of mathematics. Someone who did poorly on math in elementary school!” —Nathan Coppedge

“There’s solid evidence he invented perpetual motion in 2006. Unfortunately, the only evidence I have against Nathan Coppedge is he's not a genius.” —Reidar Finsrud (?)

“ok so publish and let someone else verify… someone articulate and educated..” —Bob Smurdly

“Everyone believes in God, the devil, or a sneaky engineer…” —Nathan Coppedge

“Say, you talk about pulling something up an inclined plane with an equal weight. You're right. This is possible. And not at all a violation of conservation of energy.” —Ian Switzer, CEO of a Cornell engineering company

"Would you believe in perpetual motion if you knew my experiment worked? Maybe you would have more reason than before, at least." ---Nathan Coppedge

“I need more news from the dollar sign people!” —Nathan Coppedge

"At first, one might guess they are blaming me for inventing it— But they don’t really think I did…. It might be more accurare to say that they are not blaming me for not inventing it— Isn't that what they do for most people? After all, how can you blame someone for doing something they didn't do? And they don't think I DID invent it (or anyone else?). So… They might be blaming me for not inventing if it were possible at all— They might be messed up in the mind! It is easier and more cogent to say they are blaming me for not inventing it unless I did!!! But they deny this. They say they blame me for inventing it, unless they blame me for not inventing it. Somehow for them, perpetual motion is a blame game. I would rather say, who is the most responsible! Who is most responsible? The one who designs it and the one who builds it, in equal measure!" ---Nathan Coppedge

“I didn't say trust me: I'm playing fire and forget… No one's going to get a better deal than perpetual motion that's free to develop.” —Nathan Coppedge

“I'm just hoping someone develops it. Fame and a small royalty and / or prize might be my reward.” —Nathan Coppedge

“It is a VERY clever device, using VERY simple physics.” —-Nathan Coppedge

“I get the feeling that you’re giving up because there’s hope.” —Nathan Coppedge

“Wake up and smell the coffee, if that’s what you need to smell.” —-Nathan Coppedge

“I'm not just feeling fast, I'm feeling wonderful.” —Nathan Coppedge

---Most posted by 2017/11/30

Quotations January 2018

"My impression is Dark Ages are a time of peace of mind and emotional wellbeing. Seriously, it may as well be the American golden age." ---Nathan Coppedge



"Some things work, and some things don’t work, by any real definition. That is morality. And it really IS morality, because a real definition will tell you what is good and bad, once you know what works and what doesn’t work by that definition. If we need more that one definition, there is more than one morality." ---Nathan Coppedge


"If you are thinking of writing an article, I recommend giving perpetual motion some professional treatment. It is hard to say it the right way, because there have been so many con artists and plain bad ideas. These ideas actually have evidence behind them, and they’re simple enough that if you have real hope of knowing how they work in conventional physics, your face should brighten, and you should think I’m going crazy, but then you should think, MAYBE… HE’S RIGHT!"



"Everything is limited by self concept, but self-concept is the ultimate realization." ---Nathan Coppedge



"Nothingness is limited by sensations. Sensations are limited by ideas. Ideas are limited by emotion. Emotion is limited by significance. Each thing achieves its own limit without always fully realizing the limit of what follows. Without any longer weighing the full significance of where it came from."---Nathan Coppedge



"Everyone is God. Everyone is a great idea." ---Nathan Coppedge


“If I were just ugly, they'd steal the idea, if I were just respectable-looking, they'd make up their mind. I'm the very worst person to invent perpetual motion who could actually do it.” --Nathan Coppedge


"It behooves Gödel to make a point he cannot make if he defeats coherence. He cannot defeat an absolute system without being absolute. And, there will be no absolute disproof while offering any kind of evidence." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Unless there is an omniscient God, there is no omnipotent force stopping you. Humans consistently overrate the omniscience of others that would allow them to control you. Human free will is likely extremely limited but real.
If we say the universe is infinite, we are committing a fallacy to say we have no control. For, like a lever's force, there is still significance relative to itself and its own reference in time. The lever's significance is it can distribute force over a greater time interval. The significance of a person is that a person can interact with the immediate environment. Saying that humans must be infinite to have infinite significance is like counting 2 before reaching 2, putting the cart before the horse." ---Nathan Coppedge


"I can see why some people in New Haven are depressed—they are not good writers."
"Success is measured in terms of specific tasks. The tasks are failed up until they succeed, and then a new goal is set. Unfortunately, there is evidence that I am one of the few thinkers who accepts ambitious criteria for philosophy."

"One intuition is that you should improve your awareness of two things: 1. How absolutely flawed human reasoning is, and: 2. The vast potential offered by flawed human reasoning."

"Given this expectation I was remarkably idealistic."

"The door of truth is ajar, But lights flicker, Let us put the argument aside… And live like wise men." The (Authentic) Apology

"True in many ways absolutely, or true by emotion only? Then the only link is emotional if one's judgment is not yet absolute."

"The future is open it seems… For disappointment and fulfilling deceit. I made the most of my mind in its cheat… To deny eternal defeat… To give motions to minds in their dreams… Perpetual motion it seems. Let's see if the judges live up to their fate— To remember the immortal state— To give birth to the land of dreams— And continue the way that it seems…"

"As far as mathematical proof of any of this, I'm not sure math is the right approach, as math solutions may be a way of creating an arbitrary problem out of an arbitrary solution, which is a fallacy, as in that case the definition of the solution must come partly from the definition of the problem, as the problem is arbitrary, and so we are in that case assuming the consequent so long as we define the problem first if it is arbitrary. Math is arbitrarily absolutely a problem until it is defined as a non-arbitrary solution to relativism. So one solution is to begin with non-arbitrary solutions to relativism."

"Soul of Intelligence: The god of stupidity has full power to be lacking in divinity." "Nathan Logos: Tetra He Draown (Hyper-Cubism)"



"After all, there is an argument that death is timeless, so it must be made ideal." ---Nathan Coppedge


"There just aren’t many good options, or we would be swimming in them." ---Nathan Coppedge


"You may never believe this, but the information hypothesis is less important than perpetual motion." ---Nathan Coppedge

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Quotes December 2017

"This philosophy, which is completely generalistic, results in a high degree of significant specializations, which would ultimately be treated more like a dimension of virtual paradise to be experienced and enjoyed than as a career path that is the subject of a miserable thesis."

---Nathan Coppedge

However, if the alternative to contradiction is physics, then there is no way to contradict the physical universe, and so the universe would be a perpetual motion machine. But if this physics were a contradiction, it could only produce smaller perpetual motion machines, since the universe exists, and eternity is measured in perpetual motion machines, and insofar as eternity is measured perpetual motion is physical.

---Nathan Coppedge


"By all accounts I lived one of the most miserable, infinitely significant lives, and there is not much evidence I will be remembered if I die. My plan is to be immortal, so people eventually get the message that I have special importance. Maybe if I'm a god they will understand my selfless mission to create perpetual motion and solve the ultimate problems of philosophy." ---Nathan Coppedge, message potentially addressed to someone who experiences eidetic visions

"Life has ideas! Life can afford understanding! Understanding is a meaningful experience! Life is worth living! Live the life that acquires worthwhile experiences." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Creativity may not be easy, but it does not necessarily require mastery." ---Nathan Coppedge

"A good scientific theory is reasonable and falsifiable. A good philosophical theory is useful and exclusive. Exclusive here means that if there are alternatives they are accounted for, or the theory is considered logically corrupt." ---Nathan Coppedge

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Quotes October 2017

"I am making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. And, maybe when I get back there will be very good news." ---Nathan Coppedge, on his correspondence with an engineer.

"It might be trillion-dollar tea, if I don't answer my e-mail." ---Nathan Coppedge, on his correspondence with an engineer.

"You are saving my hopes in the possibility of impossibility." ---Nathan Coppedge, on his correspondence with an engineer.

"I'm in a good mood, I just have a horrible personality." ---Nathan Coppedge

"For one thing my experiment worked! And another thing is there's only one thing stopping it, and its not friction!" ---Nathan Coppedge

"To some extent, scientists hear what they want to hear like everyone else. Nothing guarantees that scientific findings are the only source of insight, NOR can free will be disproven by a limited negative. Rather, all that can be proven is a qualification of something that already exists. If something can be created from pure idea, that alone is enough to prove indeterminism, which is enough to relatively prove free will. It is unfair to expect indeterminate events to lack relevance to existing data. For example, we posit ‘universe’ to find ‘empty space’ but if we thought ‘world’ meant universe, we would instead think of ‘air’ as empty space. If we think we alone in our minds are the universe, then nothingness becomes emotional, like a feeling of solipsism. But just as easily we might feel happy, or think the air was only really ever accessed by airplanes, and outer space entails an exponential growth in natural resources, etc. Clearly lack of values would imply lack of judgment, and lack of judgment is disproven by shift of perspectives." ---Nathan Coppedge


"I know a heavier weight can lift a lighter weight up a slope. I know a lighter weight can lift a heavier weight when it has sufficient leverage. That much is proven, and that is the basis of the design." ---Nathan Coppedge


"In terms of perpetual motion, a balance with two equal weights can move from rest, because the position of disorder has the same exact average altitude as the position of order. If the average altitude is the same, there is no net loss of gravity force, and so disorder and order must be treated as the same. But this means it is possible to get motion from rest at no net loss of altitude, which should indicate perpetual motion. In physics it seems to me people arbitrarily conclude that it is only at rest when it stops moving. But, to be fair, if the motion requires no net loss of altitude, then we are still getting gravity from nowhere, if what we mean by gravity is physical motion." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Doesn’t it make sense that if a wheel moves horizontally, it requires half of gravity? After all, it falls between full gravity + kinetics to lift it and zero gravity - kinetics to drop it. Therefore, rolling a wheel should require zero kinetics." ---Nathan Coppedge

"This is more like Pi the movie of Pi the movie. (But not the Life of Pi, FYI)." ---Nathan Coppedge, message to a critic

"Its not infinitely bad, its not infinitely good: its me trying to figure out my own life." --Nathan Coppedge, in response to mother wondering what was going on

"The most exciting thing is not that we made a difference, but that time-travel is possible at all, and life and people on Earth are more exciting than we thought." ---Nathan Coppedge


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Nathan Coppedge Quotes September 2017

“The end of pain is the beginning of the purpose of pain.” —Nathan Coppedge, Wisdom of the New Ancients

"There is a useful myth that triangles require quadratics. The difference appears to be functions." ---Nathan Coppedge

"The alternative to meaning of course is the meaningless, which may be capable of both intellectual arbitrariness and violence." ---Nathan Coppedge

"In the direction of matter, there is a black hole. In the direction of definition there is death. But there is also a terrible efficiency which is the greatest truth we know." ---Nathan Coppedge

"3-d seems to produce efficient entities." ---Nathan Coppedge

"I'm not even saying I'm a genius, just do something with my work!" ---Nathan Coppedge

"I thought I was obligated to present an alternate route." ---Nathan Coppedge, concerning coherentism's lightness on mathematics.


"The products of late-blooming genius are wasted, just like the results of childhood prodigy are wasted, just like politics is wasted, and poetry is wasted, and the thoughts of perpetual motion are largely wasted…" ---Nathan Coppedge

"There is a question for every statement, a word for every problem, a system for every idea, and at least one idea for every system. That is about all I can get out of meta-knowledge questions, if I summarize the wise parts." ---Nathan Coppedge

"The most radical thing about my philosophy is not philosophy at all: perpetual motion machines." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Let's see what I can do in my lifetime." ---Nathan Coppedge


"Catch the next wave—simple over-unity, where word of mouth about Nathan Coppedge makes the world rich." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Very disillusioned at this point, except that my experiments are pure platinum." ---Nathan Coppedge


"In logic, what is meant by subjectivity is science. The deepest philosophy uses relative relativism and creates the science of knowledge, in a sense, the first official philosophy, and the first actual knowledge." ---Nathan Coppedge

"The technological singularity may have died with the middle class." ---Nathan Coppedge


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Quotes August 2017

"In general everyone in the third lives between the 2 and the 4, with very few metaphysically living in the 2 or the 4." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Some question the existence of metaphysical dimensions, but as long as we have three spatial dimensions and only a limited perception of time, then there is a strong argument we live at or near the 3-d." ---Nathan Coppedge

"If the fourth dimension were linear (chronological) then it would just be an extension of the 3-d, and so it wouldn't be the true 4th dimension." ---Nathan Coppedge

"It can be argued each dimension has knowledge of the lower dimensions if we assume it is a progression, or that everyone is qualified to live in the dimension they live in. However, metaphysically we may not know exactly how the lower metaphysical dimensions live unless we have direct experience of them. It seems likely that the metaphysical second dimension is very different from the conceptual second dimension. It seems likely to me that the lower dimensions have proportionately greater knowledge of the higher dimensions than do the higher dimensions of the even higher (we call this when 'God cheats’). After all, the lower dimensions may be more fundamental, or more responsible for a larger number of later dimensions. Specifically, fhe 2nd is responsible for the third, but is otherwise no different from the third, etc and so on down the line. In this way the dimensions are less and less responible, although really they are equally responsible relative to their complexity. Complexity is possible because if the dimensions were all the same, they would be equally fundamental." ---Nathan Coppedge

"There is no responsibility without getting what we want." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Sometimes responsible people don't know how responsible they are." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Measuring the worth of worth is futile." ---Nathan Coppedge

"The evolution of evolution. Perception must always have an unconscious military, or the laws of civilized nature favor pleasure, and everyone lives on a Luxury Platform. The evolution of the military is to not be in the military, because it is better defense to not be in the military if one is inexperienced, and the only way to gain experience is to take risks. Also, experience will never be absolute and the military takes big risks. In essence, the military is not really macho when evolution means that evolution has already evolved. Everyone is equal, there is no need for muscle, madmen can be powerful or good. All is useless that can be stripped away." ---Nathan Coppedge, on the razor of luxury and swords to plowshares and the evolution of warfare

"How to prove one perpetual motion machine without proving many? The puzzle-box of fame..." ---Nathan Coppedge

"We don't argue that bricks can't make a wall, so we shouldn't argue against exponential efficiency. 12 bricks is almost like a wall!" ---Nathan Coppedge, arguing for his device with 12 compound advantages

"If philosophy is more suited to paradise than science, then we will either have a lot of philosophy, or an alternative to paradise." ---Nathan Coppedge

"People often think technology is the paradigm, but they have yet to think paradigm can be a technology. In that way, I have innovated." ---Nathan Coppedge

"The world we live in is not so different from a scheduling system for ideas—that is what it is." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Some of what C.S. Peirce propogates is merely bad Booleanism or a hard-nosed view of skeptical semantics. It should be unnecessary to say that skeptical semantics is an unnecessary discipline, as skepticism and semantics are mutually redundant." ---Nathan Coppedge

"Specific locations should really pay for everything." ---Nathan Coppedge, wisdom of the new ancients

"Before knowledge it seems, people were building in stone trees. It may be truth is more organic." ---Nathan Coppedge, after reading The Birth of Tragedy

"There is some truth in this statement that Brian believed in gods and had sex, while I believed in sex and became a virginal god." ---Nathan Coppedge, after reading The Birth of Tragedy

"Physically, something can work mechanically, under a physico-metaphysical supposition... we know logic should have a mechanism under some definition... If there is no criterion of meaning, there will be no necessary circularity... However, if there is a criterion of meaning that is met, still... we can state conditionally that we know how something works. (We) could know because it doesn't matter, or because we're an expert, or because we have special knowledge even non-mechanical knowledge, or because we have successfully qualified our criteria in a certain way even before assessing them. We will now have to prove these claims... only the best machines and other functions survive... there are two major exceptions: 1. When someone is doing some intense thinking... for example, in mathematics, where everything is built on thought, and 2. When there is a practical reason, like a random reason, why something does not work. A problem arises when the definition itself is ambiguous, but if the physical or logical conditions of function can be agreed on, then conditionally there should be a way to avoid circularity. The problem at this point will be 1. How to adopt a successful definition qua physics, metaphysics, or logic, and 2. How to change or otherwise universalize the criterion without adopting further and further definitions. The most general problem from the very beginning is not having an actual physics, metaphysics, or logic, and I think this is the root of the problem with circularity. Thus, it is apodictic to say that the true logical criterion would have no problem with circularity. And this can be true even conditionally. And so, qua condition circularity must be impossible. A further problem is simply the denial of truth, which amounts to the drnial of relevance (practically, intellectually, emotionally, spiritually). However, what is true is still true qua relevance if it is true, conditionally or otherwise. One technique I have used is to adopt systematic assumptions which create the universal logic, accept that the systematic assumptions are modifiable, apply the universal logic to certain cases in which the systemic premises hold, and leave the larger questions to the diapute about systems and similar entities. The systemic dispute may be valid, but it does not mean all validity is eliminated... To claim that anything is absolutely not useful / universal to anyone or in any way is an argument out of hand (a type of fallacy). Thus, the first condition of knowledge functionality is conditionality or (else) triviality." ---Nathan Coppedge, on circular reasoning

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