Sunday, November 10, 2013

Real Over-Unity Device Experiment: A Success

Successful over-unity device.

Not a perpetual motion machine, but proof of principle for what might become one.

Over-unity means generating energy from nothing. Whereas a perpetual motion machine must cause itself to continue moving not only once, but repeatedly.

In other words, this is a successful time-frame of a principle that would work, with the right additional design.

My argument for how it is over-unity is as follows:

1. It begins from a position of rest, with no battery power (correct).

2. If the mobile marble is prevented from moving the additional fall-length to the bottom, then all motions are recoverable, since the mobile marble begins at a lower height, allowing for a short length of drop at the end of the upwards-sloped track.

3. The counterweighted lever which permits the motion returns to its initial altitude automatically (it does).

4. The marble has the strength to cause the initial leverage position to sink to the bottom (it does).

It goes up, it goes down, with no loss of energy, from a position of rest!

In other words, this is an example of over-unity!

See a more technical description at Academic Room. Notation: some of the technicalities have been deleted, due to a single complaint. E-mail me at if you want the details on the over-unity experiment.


Michael said...

It's a little grainy, but I think I see what's going on. It would be cool if you could get the marble roll back around to the starting point without having to manually place it there.

Nathan Coppedge said...

The theory is that eight of these devices positioned in a circle could create a perpetual motion machine, since the lever returns to its initial position, and that is the same altitude as the location the marble activates at the end. In other words, each lever would follow the slot until the very end of the slot, but not beyond it. In this way, each lever would return after every semi-cycle. The major cycle would be a product of duplicating the module by eight times. The movement is only recoverable because the marble moves upwards, which I have proven is possible with this design (the design in the video).

Nathan Coppedge said...

In order to build it, it might require some modifications, such as using a contingent lever through each of the slots. That has the effect of changing the proportions of the weight values, making it difficult to use the exact same construction. However, I have much more confidence that perpetual motion is possible, now that this experiment has been conducted (now that I have built an over-unity device).

Nathan Coppedge said...

One idea for contingent levers is using a relatively longer period of extension, since that period relative to the counterweight is not very extreme. The additional ratio of weight values (e.g. for example, 5/4 instead of 3/2) with lightweight components still being used, means that the marbles have to be relatively heavier, both as counterweight, and in the mobile weight position. But, if it is possible in one configuration, rumor has it, that it could work in another, too. It's sort of like how to build a computer---it is possible, and every step (such as sophisticated programs and industrial engineering, tools not available to me), makes it much easier.

Nathan Coppedge said...

The key flaw as I see it is that the slope to get it to the starting point is almost identical to the upwards slope that it has overcome. However, that problem can be conquered by the use of multiple such devices, none of which require any return slope, and thus none of which require loss of the advantage that has been granted by the counterweight-lever ratio and use of a slotted track.